Think of the … Think of the underlying law of nature. The way of all things.
Consider its astounding inferences and implications.
The single, underlying law … of nature! Not merely of physics, chemistry, psychology, biology, etc., but of all known fields of inquiry. The law we can all relate to, identify, understand and apply.
Ask yourself. What is the underlying law of nature?
Delight in the question. Have fun in the process of finding the answer firsthand for yourself.
You’re missing the … You’re missing the original point being made. The original point made by a poster was that the poor should “use libraries” instead of having government money spent on them. I countered by arguing “where do you think libraries come from?”. The counter to this was “they are used for serious research as well” and I countered by saying that wasn’t enough to justify it from a CONSERVATIVE point of view as opposed to my liberal one. I can justify schools AND libraries. The conservative can’t do either
he is a few person … he is a few person who been heated for his brilliant mind and ideas by ignorant people dont understand his idea.
he was loved by people who use his idea for their own interests.
I’m aware of that. … I’m aware of that. I would argue that school integration has done a huge amount to lessen the racism that was in this country and its citizens’ hearts. I think SS has helped a lot of people who would have otherwise made bad decisions.
Theoretically, people don’t make decisions that are just BAD (i.e. very costly to themselves) but..they do.
I also think government has helped things a great deal. The GI bill for instance. Relief during the Depression. Government can help mitigate pain.
Im surprised you … Im surprised you dont understand MF’s point. You may have all the best intentions in the world with any program but ultimately you must look at the results. Historically Big govt intervention may have had a immediate positive result, but the long term successes are phantom and over time failed its purpose. You must look at the economic out comes of the intended program not just intention. Good will and well meaning intentions are fine but the facts of economics show the truth and success
I’ve spent a lot of … I’ve spent a lot of time listening to hardliners like objectivists and now Friedman. Friedman spends most of his time as a pragmatic capitalist economist. I agree mostly with him and think that capitalism should be left for the most part free. He occasionally references moral arguments for free markets that are more in line w/ objectivists but I think he’s just more realistic / pragmatic than they are.
Overall, I’m still a (moderate) liberal. I think the government can help people.
@majinspy I like … @majinspy I like Friedman too… I think we’re arguing the same point rofl… And when I say that libraries are used for serious research, I mean for something beyond reading comics and Dahl books.
Libraries are … Libraries are rarely the product of a community, unless by community you mean government. If you mean that then liberals (me) have already won. You say w/o government there would be libraries. Maybe, but not nearly as many and if you dispute that you must show some evidence.
In regards to libraries being for serious research, well that goes to his overall point: Taxing the poor to provide a service disproportionately used by elites.
I like Friedman because he wasn’t an ideologue or hardliner.
@majinspy Friedman … @majinspy Friedman would consider Libraries products of the communities rather than the government. Without the government, libraries would be provided too. For instance, anyone can go to a university library, etc. Government offered libraries (such as public libraries) are usually useless for serious research anyways,
Well why wouldn’t … Well why wouldn’t you be against libraries being free? Isn’t that the government providing them with something through the taxes of someone else?
an idiot with a … an idiot with a nobel prize, go figure. those metals detectors, police presence, guards and hidden wepons are not a product of the school system, public or private. it is a product of the society they live in. moreover, no wealthy parent would be “trapped” into sending their children to this school, is he joking?
those disadvantaged … those disadvantaged people like to complain and complain. They want to wait for the government to save them. Yes you’re disadvantaged, that’s why you have to work 10 times harder than the richer kid.
Good learning are self learning, if you really want to learn, you can go to local library which is free. If you’re intelligent, no matter how poor you are, people will notice you’re smart. If you’re capable and work hard, you’ll succeed. Stop asking what the gov’t can do for u.
you can see the … you can see the privatization of education in china now. Schools are run as businesses. Farmers’ children often can’t afford school. Poor students from well off families can pay more tuition to stay in school.
Get the government … Get the government out of education. Let local and state government have public schools yet let a voucher system make it so there is fair competition.
see this and take … see this and take their money to better schools. Our k-12 lacks this competition. That in addition to it being next to impossible to fire bad teachers here and you have a huge problem.
@Nintendomanwill
… @Nintendomanwill
Yes depending on you parents net income. But as you realized Harvard has a lot of resources and many alumni with very deep pockets. Federal taxes don’t go to unis here. Only state taxes. If you go to school on your home state you get lower tuition. The thing about american public unis that separate it from public high schools is that there is (even in state subsidized sys) a great deal of competition. Poor performing unis can’t fund good programs and students …
Milton Friedman on education.
Think of the …
Think of the underlying law of nature. The way of all things.
Consider its astounding inferences and implications.
The single, underlying law … of nature! Not merely of physics, chemistry, psychology, biology, etc., but of all known fields of inquiry. The law we can all relate to, identify, understand and apply.
Ask yourself. What is the underlying law of nature?
Delight in the question. Have fun in the process of finding the answer firsthand for yourself.
Google it, as a start.
You’re missing the …
You’re missing the original point being made. The original point made by a poster was that the poor should “use libraries” instead of having government money spent on them. I countered by arguing “where do you think libraries come from?”. The counter to this was “they are used for serious research as well” and I countered by saying that wasn’t enough to justify it from a CONSERVATIVE point of view as opposed to my liberal one. I can justify schools AND libraries. The conservative can’t do either
Which they don’t …
Which they don’t use, I might add.
“Taxing the poor to …
“Taxing the poor to provide a service disproportionately used by elites.”
Except your claim of disproportionality is ridiculous considering the “elites” pay the vast majority of tax for your social programs.
he is a few person …
he is a few person who been heated for his brilliant mind and ideas by ignorant people dont understand his idea.
he was loved by people who use his idea for their own interests.
I’m aware of that. …
I’m aware of that. I would argue that school integration has done a huge amount to lessen the racism that was in this country and its citizens’ hearts. I think SS has helped a lot of people who would have otherwise made bad decisions.
Theoretically, people don’t make decisions that are just BAD (i.e. very costly to themselves) but..they do.
I also think government has helped things a great deal. The GI bill for instance. Relief during the Depression. Government can help mitigate pain.
Im surprised you …
Im surprised you dont understand MF’s point. You may have all the best intentions in the world with any program but ultimately you must look at the results. Historically Big govt intervention may have had a immediate positive result, but the long term successes are phantom and over time failed its purpose. You must look at the economic out comes of the intended program not just intention. Good will and well meaning intentions are fine but the facts of economics show the truth and success
I’ve spent a lot of …
I’ve spent a lot of time listening to hardliners like objectivists and now Friedman. Friedman spends most of his time as a pragmatic capitalist economist. I agree mostly with him and think that capitalism should be left for the most part free. He occasionally references moral arguments for free markets that are more in line w/ objectivists but I think he’s just more realistic / pragmatic than they are.
Overall, I’m still a (moderate) liberal. I think the government can help people.
@majinspy I like …
@majinspy I like Friedman too… I think we’re arguing the same point rofl… And when I say that libraries are used for serious research, I mean for something beyond reading comics and Dahl books.
Libraries are …
Libraries are rarely the product of a community, unless by community you mean government. If you mean that then liberals (me) have already won. You say w/o government there would be libraries. Maybe, but not nearly as many and if you dispute that you must show some evidence.
In regards to libraries being for serious research, well that goes to his overall point: Taxing the poor to provide a service disproportionately used by elites.
I like Friedman because he wasn’t an ideologue or hardliner.
@solidysnake1 …
@solidysnake1 Friedman wanted the government to not RUN schools but OFFER free education to everyone through vouchers.
@majinspy Friedman …
@majinspy Friedman would consider Libraries products of the communities rather than the government. Without the government, libraries would be provided too. For instance, anyone can go to a university library, etc. Government offered libraries (such as public libraries) are usually useless for serious research anyways,
Well why wouldn’t …
Well why wouldn’t you be against libraries being free? Isn’t that the government providing them with something through the taxes of someone else?
an idiot with a …
an idiot with a nobel prize, go figure. those metals detectors, police presence, guards and hidden wepons are not a product of the school system, public or private. it is a product of the society they live in. moreover, no wealthy parent would be “trapped” into sending their children to this school, is he joking?
@solidysnake1
…
@solidysnake1
They should do what we do, because it works SO well.
So how many scientists and engineers does China produce a year and how many do the States?
Fucking retard. Let me guess, you are a product of public education…
those disadvantaged …
those disadvantaged people like to complain and complain. They want to wait for the government to save them. Yes you’re disadvantaged, that’s why you have to work 10 times harder than the richer kid.
Good learning are self learning, if you really want to learn, you can go to local library which is free. If you’re intelligent, no matter how poor you are, people will notice you’re smart. If you’re capable and work hard, you’ll succeed. Stop asking what the gov’t can do for u.
you can see the …
you can see the privatization of education in china now. Schools are run as businesses. Farmers’ children often can’t afford school. Poor students from well off families can pay more tuition to stay in school.
this is similar to …
this is similar to the charter schools of now. but the unions are trying to get them shut closed
Get the government …
Get the government out of education. Let local and state government have public schools yet let a voucher system make it so there is fair competition.
9:11 pimp daddy lol
9:11 pimp daddy lol
Boston, I think, …
Boston, I think, though this is in the Bronx. Might be just plain New York, but I say Boston.
8:30 – wow- what is …
8:30 – wow- what is that accent?
subsidies drive …
subsidies drive prices up
see this and take …
see this and take their money to better schools. Our k-12 lacks this competition. That in addition to it being next to impossible to fire bad teachers here and you have a huge problem.
@Nintendomanwill
…
@Nintendomanwill
Yes depending on you parents net income. But as you realized Harvard has a lot of resources and many alumni with very deep pockets. Federal taxes don’t go to unis here. Only state taxes. If you go to school on your home state you get lower tuition. The thing about american public unis that separate it from public high schools is that there is (even in state subsidized sys) a great deal of competition. Poor performing unis can’t fund good programs and students …